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joethetaxpayer	The Vote	Lead	[-]
Posts: 380 (11/04/09 11:25:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None A few observations: -Although Kepert did not increase her margin of victory from the last elections she has been a consistent 8-10 point winner in the 4th council district. People (for now) do not seem concerned about her time split between teaching and the town council. Whomever runs against her next should take note of this and concentrate on other things. I do not agree with Ms. Kepert philisophically however I do see the need to expand the poltical talent pool from the lawyer crowd. Cunha is not a lawyer however if Kepert was splitting time between a law practice and the town race - I think he would have fared better. It would be nice to see more teachers, nurses, electricians, etc.. run for office. Especially Republican ones. -Joe May was a significant factor in the 6th. The (I) line garnered 703 votes which could have swung the election the other way. Third parties are significant in local elections and especially here on Long Island and I think that is a good thing. -I think Suozzi was caught sleeping at the wheel in Nassau. Suozzi was saving money for something bigger and almost lost (and might still). -I think Beendenbender was napping next to Suozzi. Muratore ran a great campaign that came down to knocking on doors. Muratore had a network of supporters that met every weekend and went out knocking on doors. This is how Beendenbender won his last election. Its how Levy taught him. His opponent ran a better campaign and won. -The jury is still out on P64's lawn sign theory however Jack beat Dean by 4 points. I still think Dean (we can all agree) ran a great campaign. -Apparently the voters of Islip were really pissed off at the people who were managing the town who happen to be Democrats. If you don't think grass roots organizations like the CSA were a factor than go ask Chris Bodkin. -I only walked for two candidates: Muratore and Bonner - both of which won their races. That and $2.75 will get you a tall bold red eye at Starbucks. -I only made one prediction as far as points goes and I was right. Bonner beat Leonard by double digits (10 points). The negative mailings were not only ineffective but counterproductive. Leonard had more lawn signs than Bonner. -Rouse beat Caracappa by 8 points. The negative mailings here were a factor. The lack of a denial by Caracappa was too loud for voters to ignore. -I was thinking about Bob Olson and ISOM when News 12 asked every party leader why they cross endorse and don't at least put someone else up in the county DA, clerk and Sheriff offices. -Not enough young people vote. Not enough young people have an idea what is going on in politics and how it will affect them later in life. Whether you support the Republican, Democratic or third party - that is frankly a shame. "After many years, I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, and three or more are a legislature." -John Adams "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -George Bernard Shaw "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while Congress is in session." -Mark Twain Last Edited By: joethetaxpayer 11/04/09 12:07:04. Edited 1 time.
suffolkcounty		#1	[-]
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la verite	Morning Joe	#2	[-]
Posts: 250 (11/04/09 15:23:38) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Joe, I usually disagree with most of what you write, but this time, your thoughts, especially Brookhaven, were right on the money. A few amplifications inside Brookhaven: Bonner: I did not post my predictions for this race for a reason. I knew Jane was going to win, because as with Bill Shilling, (another fine person), the staunch conservative backing of Rich J's network was/is just too much to overcome without a scandal. Jane's base of soccer mom's and little league dads added to the margin of victory. If Jane has ambitions rising higher than town council, I believe she needs to tone down the scorn. Many folks view her as a plain, nasty, partisan person. Such a view (whether correct or incorrect) provides opposing motivation that made this election, notwithstanding a 10 point victory, much closer than it needed to be in that district. Kepert: Joe, you underestimate the impact of the town board decision to change the work sessions time so as to exclude Connie from participation. This decision by the majority, in my opinion, provided a significant reason to back Connie in her district, whereby the district felt disenfranchised along side of Connie. The GOP looked foolish in the eyes of the community, to such an extent as to alienate an entire district against the GOP. Connie garnered a sympathy vote that more than offset the politcal nightmare that is the fire department taxes. I believe the GOP lost a golden opportunity to take that district by offsetting such a prominent issue with the overt usurption of democracy (changing work session times). Lesko: Marty Haley did surprisingly well against Lesko. After getting crushed 2 years ago, I believed Marty would lose by 30 points. Marty slipped at the end (with the ethics nonsense), but showed class in correcting his error. Marty ran, for the most part, a semi-clean campaign and the vote count reflected the type of campaign he ran. A long shot at best, Marty far exceeded expectations. Rouse: What can I say. the local GOP has run negative, dirty, tortuous campaigns against Rouse for 6 years, and 5 out of the last 6 highway elections. 3 separate campaigns-Owens, Haley & now, Caracappa, were based on mudslinging that, I know for a fact, proved to be a major source of motivation for tough, townwide campaign. Rouse has now beat Pat Strebel, Tommy Owens (the heir apparent back in '03), Marty Haley (who never lost a race prior to '07) and now, the Caracappa name. The local GOP wasted such a revered and respected name as Caracappa with mudslinging (just look at the youtube video your friends linked to this site) and tell me how far you think the "love shack" attack, and the numerous other personal lies against Rouse got Nick. I'll tell you where it got you-it motivated Rouse and his supporters to work overtime to get out his message, as well as to motivate Rouse to go after Nick's perceived lack of work ethic. You are correct in that the negative mailing was a factor in this race, a race that was never had to be negative. Instead of having Caracappa run a clean race to build a foundation to be next highway super, the local GOP has gift wrapped an issue that may invalidate Nick as a townwide candidate in the future. In my very humble opinion, the highway race was riddled with mistakes from the GOP side, the largest of which was giving enormous motivation to a three term incumbant who has a reputation for campaigning hard. If the GOP ever has aspirations of regaining townwide relevance, it starts with the highway department and works outward. Accordingly, perhaps it's time to change their (GOP) approach. Last Edited By: la verite 11/04/09 15:28:29. Edited 1 times.
Olive		#3	[-]
Posts: 4362 (11/04/09 19:25:09) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	la verite wrote: (in part) Rouse: What can I say. the local GOP has run negative, dirty, tortuous campaigns against Rouse for 6 years, and 5 out of the last 6 highway elections. 3 separate campaigns-Owens, Haley & now, Caracappa, were based on mudslinging that, I know for a fact, proved to be a major source of motivation for tough, townwide campaign. Rouse has now beat Pat Strebel, Tommy Owens (the heir apparent back in '03), Marty Haley (who never lost a race prior to '07) and now, the Caracappa name. The local GOP wasted such a revered and respected name as Caracappa with mudslinging (just look at the youtube video your friends linked to this site) and tell me how far you think the "love shack" attack, and the numerous other personal lies against Rouse got Nick. I'll tell you where it got you-it motivated Rouse and his supporters to work overtime to get out his message, as well as to motivate Rouse to go after Nick's perceived lack of work ethic. You are correct in that the negative mailing was a factor in this race, a race that was never had to be negative. Instead of having Caracappa run a clean race to build a foundation to be next highway super, the local GOP has gift wrapped an issue that may invalidate Nick as a townwide candidate in the future. In my very humble opinion, the highway race was riddled with mistakes from the GOP side, the largest of which was giving enormous motivation to a three term incumbant who has a reputation for campaigning hard. If the GOP ever has aspirations of regaining townwide relevance, it starts with the highway department and works outward. Accordingly, perhaps it's time to change their (GOP) approach. I agree. Those youtube videos were a public relations disaster as they showed an angry man with issues irrelevant to his supposed objective. Additionally- the mudslinging by all the sock puppets, (same person), couldn't help but to garner my support even further for Mr Rouse. I am sure I wasn't alone in my sentiments. Will they EVER learn? Look out below: Filth tirade alert. Don't step in it, yeah, right there, underneath this sentence. YUK! SuzieQ, AKA, the "s", on the late Sen Kennedy: "Is He Still Hanging Around? He must stink by now. When did he die sometime in the beginning of the week? I really could give a sh-t less about this man. He certainly was not somebody I would admire. Maybe this is finally the end of the Kennedy's in our government. Let's hope." Posted by: SuzieQ, Post # 7577 on the date of 8/29/09 "He stank while he was alive and now he stank even worser while he was being jockeyed from place to place for public display." SuzieQ Post: 7699 (09/02/09)
Selvin		#4	[-]
Posts: 220 (11/04/09 21:36:25) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Superintendent of Highways, Town of Brookhaven (Elect 1) As of 11/4/09 12:55 AM 294 Election Districts reported out of 294 100.00% 61,075 Votes cast out of 281,045 21.73% Candidate Party Votes Share ROUSE, JOHN H Democratic 27,077 44.33% Independence 3,731 6.11% Working Families 1,944 3.18% Total 32,752 53.63% CARACAPPA, NICHOLAS J Republican 21,130 34.60% Conservative 7,193 11.78% Total 28,323 46.37% I think Mr. Johnny Walker Rouse best read the numbers 46.37 % was the closet to him yet, Caracappa takes him the next time out, remember only 27% of the voters came out this time, I will agree that Caracappa had a tuff run, as we all know, it's hard to bet an incumbent apparently even a bad one. Don't blink, this Caracappa kid is not going anywhere .Don't forget it took Rouse three times, and only won then because the incumbent was under indictment at the time,and even then she almost beat him he.
Olive	"To the moon, Alice!"	#5	[-]
Posts: 4365 (11/05/09 06:47:47) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Selvin, You can return to your master screen name, IndeHillHal now, ok? The election's over- so, it looks like it's time for YOU to "get over it". LOL! Sorry- too bad you gave yourself away as to your real screen name. Should be more careful!! Oh- as far as that "kid"- - Cacacrapola- (that's one big kid, don't ya think?), he needs to learn how to read a union contract and stop pacing the stage like Jackie Gleason on the Honeymooners before he even thinks about "running" for anything again. (Somehow I don't think the fella "runs" a lot. ) Look out below: Filth tirade alert. Don't step in it, yeah, right there, underneath this sentence. YUK! SuzieQ, AKA, the "s", on the late Sen Kennedy: "Is He Still Hanging Around? He must stink by now. When did he die sometime in the beginning of the week? I really could give a sh-t less about this man. He certainly was not somebody I would admire. Maybe this is finally the end of the Kennedy's in our government. Let's hope." Posted by: SuzieQ, Post # 7577 on the date of 8/29/09 "He stank while he was alive and now he stank even worser while he was being jockeyed from place to place for public display." SuzieQ Post: 7699 (09/02/09)
Selvin	Joe truth is	#6	[-]
Posts: 221 (11/06/09 10:44:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Joe, I agree the last minute false mailing by Rouse was done so the mailing would hit on Monday afternoon on purpose and so Caracappa wouldn't have not time to respond with a mailing of his own, Rouse knew it was a false piece and used it anyway, Caracappa confronted him at civic groups, and at the local news paper debates, He provided a letters from the water authority stating a foil request had been made and then withdrawn a second request had been made but had not been released, the letter also stated that in any event workman's compensation records can and would not be released by law, the letter also provided buy the water authority indicated that there policy is all employees must report any and all injury's no mater how small even if loss of time was not a result from the injury .Caracappa also provided documentation that his release time was sanctioned by the water authority for the union business, Mr Caracappa showed proof that he in fact has nearly 200 days in sick time accrued . So you may ask why did Rouse print that piece in spite of the fact he knew it was all made up twisting the truth? because he is a lawyer and he used bits and parts of the truth to spin a negative slant of a candidate that was a threat to him. Trust me Caracappa knows who is dealing with now and next time he will be prepaid for this kind of slanderous campain. Last Edited By: Selvin 11/06/09 10:49:53. Edited 2 times.
joethetaxpayer	Selvin	#7	[-]
Posts: 393 (11/06/09 11:29:37) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I was aware of the Rouse accusations almost two weeks before the election. What you said is a plausible reason why Caracappa would have done those things HOWEVER this is the first I have heard of it. I like Caracappa and I supported and voted for him. My honest criticism is that he had zero response or his response was inadequate. Communication is key in an election and he failed here. Negativity is part of politics whether we like it or not and those who communicate the best will mitigate false and/or damaging allegations. It shouldn't have taken until the last week in an election to learn that dealing with a lawyer is a dirty task. That's a life lesson everyone already knows. "After many years, I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, and three or more are a legislature." -John Adams "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -George Bernard Shaw "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while Congress is in session." -Mark Twain
la verite	Joe the taxpayer	#8	[-]
Posts: 252 (11/06/09 14:32:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Joe the taxpayer writes: ______________________________________________________________________ "I was aware of the Rouse accusations almost two weeks before the election. What you said is a plausible reason why Caracappa would have done those things HOWEVER this is the first I have heard of it. I like Caracappa and I supported and voted for him. My honest criticism is that he had zero response or his response was inadequate. Communication is key in an election and he failed here. Negativity is part of politics whether we like it or not and those who communicate the best will mitigate false and/or damaging allegations. It shouldn't have taken until the last week in an election to learn that dealing with a lawyer is a dirty task. That's a life lesson everyone already knows." _______________________________________________________________________ Joe: May I say, first, that your persona on this board, the tone of your posts, has been that of a principled individual with a clear Republican bias. I believe your bias creates the requisite subjectivity that, quite frankly, does not allow you to view issues and/or candidates who are not running on the "Republican ticket" objectively or fairly. First, your political friend, "Selvin" is the same poster as "Alexander Hamilton", "bartender", "IndyHillHall" and "highwayguy". To address this individual, who has proven by his own duplicitous actions on this board alone, to be without any measure of credibility-at all-is a significant reason by itself to discount your posts. Secondly, your failure to put this Selvin individual back on earth, with the glaring observation that Mr. Caracappa's campaign was based purely on mudslinging, shows the inherent bias you posses. If you wish to be taken seriously, it would be helpful to objectively review what has actually transpired during this campaign. That means, No Spin. Have at some truth. With respect to the veracity of poster "Selvin's" claims: Firstly, if you are "in the know", as these things go, you will know factually that distortions, and absurd lies were the entire components of Mr. Caracappa's campaign. And Selvin cries on this board as a victim? Are you kidding me? Please, you should watch, if you have not already, the utube video. The factual misrepresentations perpetuated by your candidate-the candidate that you voted for-the candidate you supported-in spite of his overt and clear lies. Mr. Caracappa contended in front of every civic association and editorial board that Mr. Rouse built a "love shack" on fire island with taxpayer funds. This is a disgusting lie that Mr. Caracappa represented as truth for the last 3 months. Mr. Caracappa claimed that Mr. Rouse would not pave your road if you did not contribute to his campaign (ignoring the undisputed fact that over 2500 roads have been paved in Brookhaven since Rouse has held office-which is on average, more than twice as many roads per annum that have been paid than at any other time in the history of Brookhaven town). Mr. Caracappa's campaign was based on one tirade after another-with each and every tirade a lie. Mr. Caracappa's counter claims which he failed to provide during the campaign regarding the comp issues and the time he actually works at the water authority do not hold any water. Mr. Rouse did not "twist" the facts as the proven poster of deceit "Selvin" wants you to believe. The very simple fact is if Mr. Caracappa came out with the joke of the excuses "Selvin" listed above, Caracappa would have been exposed even further for the no show job it appears that he has. It would seem to me that a campaign decision was made to ignore the mailing, to fail to address the facts, because the issue would have been given more prominence, combined with the fact that Caracappa's explanation, under review, would not have been credible. Your comment that "dealing with a lawyer is a dirty task. That's a life lesson everyone already knows" presupposes that candidate Rouse was lying, and ran a dirty campaign. You automatically give credence to poster "Selvin" when he/she has bee proven wrong on this board time and again. Your agenda that presupposes candidate Rouse was twisting things suggests that you have an inability to look at issues objectively, which again, goes to your credibility. And you, Joe the taxpayer, voted for Mr. Caracappa. Even though every one of Mr. Caracappa's lies were debunked. Why would you vote for a proven liar, Joe the taxpayer? Is it that you are not really interested in honesty, or quality of candidate, but more importantly which party is in charge? You knowingly "liked and supported" a proven liar? What kind of person does that make you? For someone as astute as you appear to be on this board, we all expected more. Mr. Caracappa ran a campaign based solely on lies. You knew, Joe the taxpayer, that Mr. Caracappa was lying. You, Joe the taxpayer, knowingly supported and cast your vote for: a liar. Care to explain?
joethetaxpayer	Rouse	#9	[-]
Posts: 397 (11/06/09 16:05:05) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	My remarks to Selvin were regarding how a campaign should be run. If you'd like to call me an overt Republican I am fine with that. Its flattering actually. As far as who did and did not run an honest/clean campaign - please. The Democrats can spare me. Nobody holds the high ground in moral standing in politics. NOBODY. With a major Rouse staff member boinking a married woman at Democrat HQ? High moral standing. Leonard's attacks on Jane Bonner whose son worked an hourly job on his college break is a scandal? The old crusty guy on the glossy mailing - was that really necessary? The sad part about that one is the mailing was sent by the Democratic Committee - not Leonard himself. Nothing in my post said the Caracappa held any more a higher moral standard than Rouse. As my favorite liberal poster regaularly says - you're projecting. Rouse is a lawyer and a big boy. He can handle himself. Do not give me the lecture on higher moral standing. "After many years, I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, and three or more are a legislature." -John Adams "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -George Bernard Shaw "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while Congress is in session." -Mark Twain
Olive	Joe- you're one big liar.	#10	[-]
Posts: 4377 (11/06/09 17:33:16) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Joe, You are as DISGUSTING as those liars on FOX news! No one is "projecting" anything! YOU CLEARLY MADE THOSE STATEMENTS IN SUPPORT OF A LIAR- SO YOU HAVE NO QUAMS ABOUT SUPPORTING A LIAR! That's not a "projection" sonny- it's a FACT! Additionally- you just made even MORE allegations that are equally disgusting! No more with you. I'm done even entertaining the thought that you had some integrity. You've lost any and all credibility on this message board- so go have a round of Ben and Jerry's with your boy- and look for greener pastures to defecate on. Look out below: Filth tirade alert. Don't step in it, yeah, right there, underneath this sentence. YUK! SuzieQ, AKA, the "s", on the late Sen Kennedy: "Is He Still Hanging Around? He must stink by now. When did he die sometime in the beginning of the week? I really could give a sh-t less about this man. He certainly was not somebody I would admire. Maybe this is finally the end of the Kennedy's in our government. Let's hope." Posted by: SuzieQ, Post # 7577 on the date of 8/29/09 "He stank while he was alive and now he stank even worser while he was being jockeyed from place to place for public display." SuzieQ Post: 7699 (09/02/09)
joethetaxpayer	Olive	#11	[-]
Posts: 398 (11/06/09 17:42:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	You are clearly not sane. Your remarks have no relevance to what I wrote nor were they addressed to you. The only solace I have here is that I obviously irritate you. "After many years, I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, and three or more are a legislature." -John Adams "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -George Bernard Shaw "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while Congress is in session." -Mark Twain
Selvin		#12	[-]
Posts: 223 (11/06/09 19:12:30) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	First I suggest you in fact you view the so called "slanderous video" Rouse claims about the love shack! Caracappa clearly stated that Rouse turned a two car garage into a lavish office complete with a shower complete with sky lights on both sides for a view of the bay and the ocean, The love shack part was what Caracappa clearly stated what the highway employees called it. Not Caracappa. I find it funny that Rouse has only the issue of it being called the love shack, which is the least important part of the whole presentation, I think the whole layout was perfectly clear to all who saw the presentation in person or on you tube, Caracappa's problem was once he addressed the made up lies Rouse brought forward, he though that was the end of it. I think he believed that and trusted Rouse and believed that he was a descent man of integrity and may have gotten some misinformation. Please note he never brought up anything on a personal level about Johnny walker Rouse, he stuck with the issues as Rouse asked him to at the beginning of the campaign. I am sure he won't trust Rouse again and the next time the personal stuff about Rouse will come out. The apparent actuations of using the false mis- representation of facts about workman's compensation and a no show job. Clearly this was no question the actions of a desperate man who was going to try to win even if it meant lying and slandering a man of Nick Caracappas impeccable reputation. The saddest part is some people believe anything they read. The moral to the story never trust a lawyer.... Well at least this one anyway!
Olive	liar	#13	[-]
Posts: 4382 (11/06/09 19:27:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	joethetaxpayer wrote: You are clearly not sane. Your remarks have no relevance to what I wrote nor were they addressed to you. The only solace I have here is that I obviously irritate you. So since you didn't send me a certified letter- I am to IGNORE the filth you spew on this message board? Not a chance in hell, a$$hole. Your an arrogant, stuffy, impotent snob who happens to collude with liars of all kinds. You, yourself, are now branded as a liar. Look out below: Filth tirade alert. Don't step in it, yeah, right there, underneath this sentence. YUK! SuzieQ, AKA, the "s", on the late Sen Kennedy: "Is He Still Hanging Around? He must stink by now. When did he die sometime in the beginning of the week? I really could give a sh-t less about this man. He certainly was not somebody I would admire. Maybe this is finally the end of the Kennedy's in our government. Let's hope." Posted by: SuzieQ, Post # 7577 on the date of 8/29/09 "He stank while he was alive and now he stank even worser while he was being jockeyed from place to place for public display." SuzieQ Post: 7699 (09/02/09)
la verite	Joseph the taxpayer	#14	[-]
Posts: 254 (11/06/09 19:39:37) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	_____________________________________________________________________________________ Joethetaxpayer says: "My remarks to Selvin were regarding how a campaign should be run. If you'd like to call me an overt Republican I am fine with that. Its flattering actually." _____________________________________________________________________________________ Your remarks included the following statement (and I quote from Joethetaxpayer): "It shouldn't have taken until the last week in an election to learn that dealing with a lawyer is a dirty task. That's a life lesson everyone already knows." In any context, you are agreeing with Selvin that dealing with Mr. Rouse, a lawyer, is a dirty task. This statement is patently false, sir. Additionally, you fail to even mention that Mr. Caracappa was the master of the smear campaign this cycle. The irony that Selvin feigns victimization I would think reaches such heights of irony that even you, Joe, as a persona of integrity, would throw in the obvious observation. Again, to reiterate the persona you wish to portray on this board: Integrity with a Republican bias. Should you wish to be held in such esteem, then kindly limit your statements to one's that are true. Otherwise, whatever points you wish to make are to be taken from a source that is unwilling to tell the truth, or worse, to lie, and as such, no credibility should be given to your posts. *** ___________________________________________________________________________________ Joethetaxpayer says: As far as who did and did not run an honest/clean campaign - please. The Democrats can spare me. Nobody holds the high ground in moral standing in politics. NOBODY. With a major Rouse staff member boinking a married woman at Democrat HQ? High moral standing. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Actually, Joe, I am specifically charging Mr. Caracappa with running a dishonest, false, campaign of smears that have been highlighted ad infinitum on this board. Mr. Caracappa had not one truthful thing to say about Mr. Rouse. You evoked the comment from me when you explicitly stated you liked Mr. Caracappa and voted for him. You have not yet answered the question as to why you would forsake your Republican traits of integrity, honesty and conservative values-you would trade such markers and your vote-for a proven liar. Such doesn't square with your internet persona. As if your posting of a filthy rumor on this board would actually justify the dishonesty displayed by Mr. Caracappa on this board? Nice try, but whether or not an individual had a relationship with another individual has as much relevance to this thread as let's just say, the conduct of a certain Republican staffer and lets just say "naked pictures", or a certain Republican elected official and the extramarital affairs, etc., etc. All of these things have no such relavance to this thread, but if you wish to get into it, including names, I guarantee you I know of probably more than two to every one you can think of. It would not make you, nor your party look good to get further into that. In other words, your reply was not only irrelavent to the thread, but in very poor taste. Such poor taste that can open a can of worms you would not want to open. * _____________________________________________________________________________________ joethetaxpayer says: "Leonard's attacks on Jane Bonner whose son worked an hourly job on his college break is a scandal? The old crusty guy on the glossy mailing - was that really necessary? The sad part about that one is the mailing was sent by the Democratic Committee - not Leonard himself" _____________________________________________________________________________________ My post directed at you was specific to the Caracappa/Rouse race. I am puzzled as to why you would respond to my thread with an irrelevant comparison of another race. I will, however, in the interest of providing you with a complete response, provide my retort to your Bonner comments: Joe, Bonner giving her son an hourly job is in no way a scandal. However, Joe, Jane Bonner giving a full time job to her fiance's father and fiance's son is extremely relevant when the basis of Jane's previous campaign was to cut taxes. In fact, Jane voted to raise taxes, employ relatives, and attempted to eliminate other needed town posts to compensate for the added payroll of her relatives. Now, if you were a town employee who almost lost your job because Jane hired relatives to work for the town, wouldn't you be pissed? Does hiring family members and voting to raise taxes (such higher taxes an indirect result of hiring family members) not deserve to be an election issue? How does such a track record earn the vote of such a self described Republican as yourself? Again, your advocacy for Jane Bonner doesn't square with your self described values, nor do they square with your quotes so present on the bottom of each of your posts. Again, sir, if you wish to talk the talk, then kindly walk the walk. Now, I am only commenting on the Bonner race because YOU decided to bring up the Bonner race. Other than post- election analysis, I have intentionally not commented on this race prior to this post. For the record, I was never really sold on Leonard as the right candidate for this job. John seemed like a nice man, an intelligent guy, but I believed that the Democrats had a better candidate who would have given Jane a tougher race. Knowing what I know of Jane, whereby I have witnessed her speak untruths at civic meetings and to the press, has not only saddened me that the Republicans can choose such a candidate to represent the party, but has also led me to the conclusion, imo, that Jane should not be the town council representative of her district. I must say, imo, Jane was a very good civic leader, (and I was heartened by her nomination in '07), but something happened on the way to elected office-Jane became the personification of the perverbial politician and changed accordingly. * ___________________________________________________________________________________ joethetaxpayer says: "Rouse is a lawyer and a big boy. He can handle himself. Do not give me the lecture on higher moral standing." ____________________________________________________________________________________ The lecture on high moral standing has everything to do with your persona of integrity with a Republican bias. You should consider it a complement that you would be viewed in such a manner. It was in this context that I requested your response. I have pointed out several items that did not square with the ideals that you appear to identify with. Specifically, I asked how you could vote for Mr. Caracappa, when it was clearly shown on this site and other media that he based his entire campaign on lies. Naturally, the question begs to be asked: How can an individual who advertises such high moral standards such as yourself vote for a proven liar? As an additional bonus question, how does a self described individual, who holds strict adherence for Republican values, vote not only for a proven liar, but a union leader on top of everything. Union leaders, in the eyes of true Republicans, are wasteful liberals personified. These things just don't square, Joe. Again, I ask for a reconciliation of the contradictions. ***
Olive	planet dope- come in, planet dope, do you read me?	#15	[-]
Posts: 4383 (11/06/09 19:40:45) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	first I suggest, bla bla bla bla bla.........love shack bla bla bla bla bla..................carcrapoloa bla bla bla bla bla.....lawyer bla bla bla bla bla.first I suggest, bla bla bla bla bla.........love shack bla bla bla bla bla..................carcrapoloa bla bla bla bla bla.....lawyer bla bla bla bla bla.first I suggest, bla bla bla bla bla.........love shack bla bla bla bla bla..................carcrapoloa bla bla bla bla bla.....lawyer bla bla bla bla bla.first I suggest, bla bla bla bla bla.........love shack bla bla bla bla bla..................carcrapoloa bla bla bla bla bla.....lawyer bla bla bla bla bla.first I suggest, bla bla bla bla bla.........love shack bla bla bla bla bla..................carcrapoloa bla bla bla bla bla.....lawyer bla bla bla bla bla.first I suggest, bla bla bla bla bla.........love shack bla bla bla bla bla..................carcrapoloa bla bla bla bla bla.....lawyer bla bla bla bla bla.first I suggest, bla bla bla bla bla.........love shack bla bla bla bla bla..................carcrapoloa bla bla bla bla bla.....lawyer bla bla bla bla bla.first I suggest, bla bla bla bla bla.........love shack bla bla bla bla bla..................carcrapoloa bla bla bla bla bla.....lawyer bla bla bla bla bla. planet Dope- come in, planet Dope, do you read me? IndiHillHall, You can drop the other screen names now- the election's over. Thank you for exposing to us what a fake, phony fraud both you and "joethetaxcheat" are. Now, speaking of that "video"- you're kidding yourself if you think we all saw "everything". With the size of that guy's gut hangin' over his panties, and that *Wanna-beee-Mrs-Price-Is-Wrong* tryin' to strut' some cheap Seldin stuff that she clearly didn't have- the whole thing was a ridiculous farce which ended up providing entertainment to all of us. But, of course, Joe the tax cheat is up your a$$ like somethin' purchased from the Pink Pussycat- so, we all know Joe was "sold" on that presentation of a neo-Jackie Gleason audition. Realy- the two of you- get a freaken life and realize that you support losers and idiots. I swear to God, just when I think all the dope addicts have gone to bed- you two pop up like poptarts out of an old crusty GOP toaster. OYE VEY! Look out below: Filth tirade alert. Don't step in it, yeah, right there, underneath this sentence. YUK! SuzieQ, AKA, the "s", on the late Sen Kennedy: "Is He Still Hanging Around? He must stink by now. When did he die sometime in the beginning of the week? I really could give a sh-t less about this man. He certainly was not somebody I would admire. Maybe this is finally the end of the Kennedy's in our government. Let's hope." Posted by: SuzieQ, Post # 7577 on the date of 8/29/09 "He stank while he was alive and now he stank even worser while he was being jockeyed from place to place for public display." SuzieQ Post: 7699 (09/02/09) Last Edited By: Olive 11/06/09 19:45:16. Edited 1 times.
Selvin		#16	[-]
Posts: 225 (11/06/09 19:56:35) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hey ,you cheated ,you lied ,you won call it day! Great sucess, 18 months comes quickly see you on the next round.
la verite	Selly, bartender, highwayguy, indyhillhannity,Alexander Hamilton	#17	[-]
Posts: 255 (11/06/09 21:31:16) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	_______________________________________________________________________________________________ Selly & company of sockpuppets says: "Hey ,you cheated ,you lied ,you won call it day! Great sucess, 18 months comes quickly see you on the next round" _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Fact Check: Caracappa cheated. Caracappa lied. Rouse won. Great Success. **** Here's some elementary math for you to chew on while you throw around your threats, Selly: 18 months means 1000 more roads paved. 80 homes per road times 1000 roads paved = 80,000 more ecstatic homeowners thrilled with Mr. Rouse. 80,000 ecstatic homeowners times .65% voter registration rate equals 52,000 additional registered voters thrilled with Mr. Rouse. 52,000 additional registered voters thrilled with Mr. Rouse times the 2009 voter participation rate of 22% equals... 11,440 additional votes, less a 30% margin for party line Republican votes equals.... 8,008 additional votes for Mr. Rouse in 2011. Not an exact science, Selly, but you get the picture. Remember, you get more bees with honey, honey.
Selvin		#18	[-]
Posts: 226 (11/06/09 21:55:59) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Have another drink there Johnny walker and keep telling yourself , that Nick Caracappa telling the truth the whole truth about you was mudsling, and you just justify what you did, hope it makes you sleep and feel better,don't beat up anymore wwII old men in the mean time ok.
la verite	Selly, bartender, highwayguy, indyhillHannity, Alexander Hamilton	#19	[-]
Posts: 256 (11/06/09 23:11:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Selly, bartender, highwayguy, indyhillHannity, Alexander Hamilton says: "Have another drink there Johnny walker and keep telling yourself , that Nick Caracappa telling the truth the whole truth about you was mudsling, and you just justify what you did, hope it makes you sleep and feel better,don't beat up anymore wwII old men in the mean time ok." ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ You really are pathetic, Selly. Try not to drown yourself in your miseries.
Selvin		#20	[-]
Posts: 227 (11/06/09 23:34:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	You just make sure you pay your bills on time we all know how important a good credit score is.

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